October 26, 2005

What Is Truth?

Hatched by Dafydd

I don't know... how about simply saying things that are accurate to the best of your knowledge?

UPDATED: See below!

The New York Times is once again trying to pick a fight with the White House over an absurdity. Here is the setup:

While not commenting on the report about Mr. Libby's conversation with Mr. Cheney [where the vice president is alleged to have told Libby that "Mrs. Wilson" suggested her husband for the mission], the White House took issue with suggestions that Mr. Cheney had not been truthful several months later in a television interview when he said he did not know Mr. Wilson and did not know who had sent him on his mission.

Asked whether Mr. Cheney always told the truth to the American people, Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, answered, "Yes."

At issue were remarks by Mr. Cheney in an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sept. 14, 2003. In response to a question about Mr. Wilson, Mr. Cheney said: "I don't know who sent Joe Wilson. He never submitted a report that I ever saw when I came back."

Mr. Cheney later added, "I don't know Joe Wilson," and said he had "no idea who hired him."

The point the Times makes obliquely, but which is being charged explicitly in the lefty blogs, is that there is a contradiction between Cheney saying he has "no idea who hired" Joe Wilson -- and Libby's notes, which indicate Cheney knew that Wilson was suggested by his wife, "Mrs. Wilson," for the mission to Niger. This is "teen logic" at its worst!

Here, I can settle this whole thing for the country right now. When I went to work for FileNet, I recommended they also hire my friend and former Ashton-Tate co-worker, George.

I suggested George, but I did not hire him; I was just a worker bee. The manager of our division, Mike, hired George.

Valerie Plame was a peon at the CIA. She had no authority to hire anyone, especially not her own husband. She suggested Joseph Wilson, but somebody else actually made the decision to send a know-nothing ex-ambassador to inquire whether Saddam Hussein tried to acquire yellowcake. Nobody seems to know who that "somebody else" was -- not Dick Cheney, and not the Times. And the only thing that Cheney "knew" about Joe Wilson was what George Tenet told him: that Wilson was the guy who was sent to Niger.

'Nuff said?

UPDATE: I think I've read eight MSM stories about this case in the last twenty-four hours... and not one, single story has so far mentioned the most salient feature of this case: that the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence determined that Joseph Wilson lied in his teeth about what he found in Niger. Not a single story has noted that he actually found that Iraq had likely tried to purchase yellowcake from Niger, and that Wilson's carefully orchestrated series of leaks to various reporters was a campaign of falsehoods -- capped by Wilson's own mendacious op-ed in the New York Times.

So, Mr. Wilson -- what is truth... to you?

Hatched by Dafydd on this day, October 26, 2005, at the time of 4:33 AM

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The following hissed in response by: stackja1945

The MSM tells us that the Left is alway right in all its action, so the White House must be wrong, the MSM really believe this and who are we, such simple folk, to not accept this self-evident truth.

The above hissed in response by: stackja1945 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2005 5:42 AM

The following hissed in response by: LargeBill

The MSM in addition to failing to report that Wilson is completely discredited also refuse to make accurate comparisons with previous administrations. In Watergate, as trivial as the burglery was it was a crime. It was followed by Nixon's administration attempting to stonewall the investigation and firings prosecutors.
In Clinton's case his purjury was germaine to the case at hand. While the case was pending the Clinton administration constantly trashed the witnesses and the prosecutor.
In the current case, President Bush ordered his administration to cooperate fully with the investigation. I have heard almost no negative comments about Fitzgerald.

The above hissed in response by: LargeBill [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2005 8:52 AM

The following hissed in response by: RBMN

Re: LargeBill at October 26, 2005 08:52 AM

> I have heard almost no negative
> comments about Fitzgerald.

Not to say that he will, but to keep getting that positive MSM coverage, Fitzgerald knows what he has to do--indict every Bush Administration member that ever mentioned "Wilson's wife." And to the extent that he doesn't, his new label will be "Republican lackey."

The above hissed in response by: RBMN [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2005 9:46 AM

The following hissed in response by: ambiorix

You have to love the MSM!

Cheney lied because he said he did not know who at the CIA hired Joe "Liar" Wilson, but we are supposed to believe that noone in the Clinton White House hired the bouncer who ended up with all the Republican FBI files.

An "Immaculate Hiring" and they tell us they do not believe in religion!

The above hissed in response by: ambiorix [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2005 11:58 AM

The following hissed in response by: KarmiCommunist


Merriam-Webster does a fairly good job at Dualistically defining Truth: "sincerity in action, character, and utterance"...especially when they lead off with "archaic"...so to sorta speak of an 'Age Old Truth' adage. However, since Truth in the Dualistic realm depends upon Lies for mutual survival, perhaps it boils down to what Mother Nature thinks. Merriam-Webster does not attempt to define Non-Duality, but if they did, then Non-Dualistically 'Truth and Lies' would be defined thusly: ...simply not two.


The above hissed in response by: KarmiCommunist [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2005 7:39 PM

The following hissed in response by: KarmiCommunist

In other words, whilst encased-in-flesh upon the Planet Earth, humans are under the rule of Mother Nature...so to speak of “Survival of the Fittest” and Living or Dying. Beheading another human, live on a fresh video headed towards worldwide news, is Truth if one is sincere in such whilst one’s character and utterance reflects such, as long as that beheader can survive longer than average...so to speak of “Survival” speaking for ‘Itself’.


The above hissed in response by: KarmiCommunist [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2005 8:02 PM

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