September 12, 2006

Hackers, Slackers, and "Hot" Latinas

Hatched by Dafydd

Following up on our earlier post about California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's comments on the only Republican Latina in the state Assembly, Bonnie Garcia, in a privately recorded conversation that was released to the media a few days ago:

[Schwarzenegger's Democratic chief of staff, Susan] Kennedy offers praise for Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia, the lone Latina Republican in the Legislature. The governor and Kennedy debate her ethnicity, and Schwarzenegger opines that whether she is Cuban or Puerto Rican doesn't matter much.

"I mean, they are all very hot," the governor says. "They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it."

In our first post, we opined that there was nothing intrinsically offensive in the comment, nor was Garcia offended; in fact, she says she describes herself as a "hot-blooded Latina" all the time, and she has specifically used that phrase to describe herself to Schwarzenegger.

But this does beg an interesting question: how did the audio tape get into the grubby paws of the LA Times in the first place? That conundrum, at least, has now been answered... it came from campaign officials of Phil Angelides, Schwarzenegger's opponent in his reelection bid November:

Democrat Phil Angelides' gubernatorial campaign acknowledged Monday that it downloaded the digital audio file containing Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's controversial private remarks on ethnicity, but said it did nothing inappropriate and accessed the recording through the governor's "publicly available" Web site.

But Schwarzenegger's legal affairs secretary, Andrea Lynn Hoch, said earlier that the access was "unauthorized" and that an internal audit discovered the six-minute audio file was hacked from the private computer system of the Governor's Office on Aug. 29 and 30.

After some fum-fahing, the Angelides camp finally admitted yesterday that they downloaded the audio file and sent it to the Times, according to ace Bee-blogger Daniel Weintraub. But they have a defense:

Angelides campaign manager Cathy Calfo admitted a few minutes ago that the Angelides campaign was the source of the Los Angeles Times story revealing a privately recorded conversation involving Gov. Schwarzenegger and his top aides. But Calfo says the audio file was downloaded from a link in a Schwarzenegger press release, and no one on her staff “hacked” the governor’s Web site or accessed a password protected area....

Calfo said the staff members, a press aide and a researcher, followed a link in an Aug. 29 press release that included a recording of the governor’s comments at CSU Long Beach regarding the one-year anniversary of Hurricane Katrina....

Calfo said the staff “backed up” on that link to see the entire directory of files available (also not possible today) and downloaded more than four hours of material. She wouldn’t release those recordings Tuesday nor say what they contained.

Weintraub says (in a different post) that if it turns out the Angelides campaign workers actually "hacked" (in the legal defintion, which requires breaking a password scheme) the site to get the private audiotapes, then they'll be in trouble; but if it turns out they were available on the site without busting security, but with some monkeying around in areas known to be private, then they're off the hook.

I completely disagree. If we follow Weintraub's reasoning, that means if I forget and leave my front door unlocked, you have the legal right to burgarize the joint.

Morally and ethically, whenever an unauthorized person is trolling around the private area of someone else's website, he is hacking -- whether security was adequate or not. It's completely irrelevant, no matter what the law says.

The lack of good security procedures does not release Democrats from the necessity to act in a morally responsible way, any more than the lack of a good lock releases them from moral responsibility for black-bagging Republican campaign offices and Xeroxing donor lists.

Am I an anachronism? Is it now the general belief in America that it's morally acceptable to lift anything not literally nailed down? That if there isn't a secure enough lock, then it's all right to steal? Is that the logical end result of teenagers "ripping" music they want to hear but don't want to pay for?

If so, I'm hardly suprised to see California Democrats in the vanguard of defending such a despicable worldview.

Hatched by Dafydd on this day, September 12, 2006, at the time of 4:38 PM

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The following hissed in response by: bpilch

what the hell does "backed up" the link. Clearly it does not mean they just clicked on the link. This is way worse than going in an open door. This is like leaving something in the door jamb so the door doesn't close. Clearly they knew they were in an area they weren't supposed to be. They downloaded 4 hours of private information, culled it for what they thought would be the worst, then provided it to the LA Times, who probably just relayed it as anonymous source. These are the people that revile Nixon for Watergate, tell me the difference....

The above hissed in response by: bpilch [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 12, 2006 4:53 PM

The following hissed in response by: Dan Kauffman

I completely disagree. If we follow Weintraub's reasoning, that means if I forget and leave my front door unlocked, you have the legal right to burgarize the joint.

Do you mean to tell me that if someone comes into your home, without your permission and against your wishes that they are not

Guests?

Sorry Dafydd that was too good to pass up ;-)

The above hissed in response by: Dan Kauffman [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 12, 2006 5:36 PM

The following hissed in response by: Big D

And the worst they could come up from four hours of tape was....him calling a woman hot-blooded? Perhaps implying that her racial make-up made her that way? Sheesh.

This from the party that decried the Monica Lewinsky scandal, which at least had a veneer of criminality associated with it? Sheesh again.

Also, as my Mother taught me, if everything you are doing in on the up and up(stealing stuff off a website), why did you hide that you did it (submit it to a newspaper anonymously)?

I'm getting real tired of the media and their open mike follies. When will they realize that we all say and do things in private that we later regret, that we all misspeak? Give it a rest already.

The above hissed in response by: Big D [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 12, 2006 5:38 PM

The following hissed in response by: KarmiCommunist

The Phil Angelides' campaign went through the proper channels, and got a FISA Court approval.

The above hissed in response by: KarmiCommunist [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 12, 2006 5:52 PM

The following hissed in response by: The Yell

Bloggers try that sort of thing all the time to ID trolls.

According to the Unwritten Geek Code, emails and websites are publications of data to the whole world. If one is inartful enough to be unaware of the total information they are publishing, one must take the consequences. It's the e-quivalent of sending an anonymous note scribbled on the back of your business card-D'oh!

However, according to the same Unwritten Geek Code, the user should be open about how he got the data. Quite open. Boastful, in fact.

Angelides tried to hide. For shame, geek.

The above hissed in response by: The Yell [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 12, 2006 6:02 PM

The following hissed in response by: nk

I vote for real old-fashioned hacking -- an inside source giving access. What would such a recording be doing on a (not merely publicly accessible) website in the first place? I mean, do you upload your kitchen-table discussions with your wife to this site, Dafydd?

The above hissed in response by: nk [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 12, 2006 8:57 PM

The following hissed in response by: Jason McClain

...does not release Democrats from the necessity to act in a morally responsible way...

What will you want next? Kosher homosexuality? 3,000 Horsepower electric lawnmowers? Moonbats to deny that THIS COUNTRY IS IN THE HANDS OF THE NAZI Party?!?!?!?!?!

Heh.

The above hissed in response by: Jason McClain [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 12, 2006 10:54 PM

The following hissed in response by: Dirty Dingus

Firstly, I'm not completely sure I agree with the open door metaphor. This, to me, is more like failing to put "Authorised personnel only" signs on doors to private offices in a building which welcomes the public in to parts of it (say a restaurant, shop or gallery). As I understand it all they did was go from http://www.host.com/some/path/pressrelease.htm to http://www.host.com/some/path/ and discover that instead of an index page or permission denied notice it contained a directory listing. And amongst the files listed were this particular bit of audio.

If you don't want access to these bits then you need to put up the sign that says "Private keep out" because the assumption is that a website is there for people to read and explore. Just as a gallery/museum/library is. If you don't want people to wander through your office in search of the toilets then you put up sings to make it clear that the offices are private and the toilets are over there. The same applies here IMO.

What I don't understand is why the democrats didn't just send the URL http://www.host.com/some/path/ to the LA Times and say hey you might want to look at the WAV file that we found here - check what is said at XX minutes in. Presumably they assume that the LA Times journalists aren't up to the task of navigating the web or playing audio files.

One also wonders what happens when someone does the same thing to a democrat website - say that of Mr Angilides? I really hope he's got his web security perfect because if not he's going to end up defending some document found on his site that he didn't wish to be well known... or even (whisper it) a document planted there by some malicious opponent

The above hissed in response by: Dirty Dingus [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 13, 2006 12:50 AM

The following hissed in response by: MarkD

Democrats behave in an ethical manner? They don't have to, their intentions are pure. That makes it OK to pretend to be somebody else to get Michael Steele's credit report.

But not OK to listen in on the phone calls of people who are talking with people who are trying to kill us.

The above hissed in response by: MarkD [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 13, 2006 4:01 AM

The following hissed in response by: Michael Heinz

Normally I would agree with the democrats - but they set the precedent a couple of years ago when they had a republican staffer fired and charged with hacking (IIRC) for distributing publicly viewable files from the Democrat's file servers in Congress.

So, they lit the petard, let them be hoist by it!

The above hissed in response by: Michael Heinz [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 13, 2006 6:35 AM

The following hissed in response by: Michael Heinz

http://www.slate.com/id/2095770/

The above hissed in response by: Michael Heinz [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 13, 2006 6:38 AM

The following hissed in response by: yetanotherjohn

This is just another example of the republican theocracy decending on America. That Shwarzeneger would entrap the democrats by leaving stuff on his web site shows how low the republicans have sunk in their desire to do away with all civil liberties. Thank goodness that the democrats are here to fight the republican desire to spy on everyone by viligintly looking through other peoples computers.

The above hissed in response by: yetanotherjohn [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 13, 2006 10:01 AM

The following hissed in response by: bpilch

Dirty Dingus, you couldn't be more wrong. Providing a link with directions myserver/path/pressrelease does not give license to go through myserver even if you can type myserver/ a million combinations to find the directory, then find what is on it.... If I tell you to stop by my house and pick up something I borrowed, it does not give you license to enter my house and search for whatever you want. This is new technological area, but the ethics are as old as man, and very simple. Dems want to protect conversations with terrorists, but they do not want to protect an elected officials private documents. How you triangulate that Watergate and NSA wiretapping are our nation's worst transgressions, but this is legal and ok.....

The above hissed in response by: bpilch [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 13, 2006 11:50 AM

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