I think a lot of this comes from the immigration issue. Dafydd touched on this in great detail in ealier posts but the majority of the US public doesn't want to hear it. Yet if we only build a wall and continue to make it almost impossible for Mexicans to come in legally to work (in whatever fashion) the pressures will undermine that wall - or they will come in around that wall (in boats) or tunnel under it.

So a responsible policy has to handle both pressures and also handle those who are here already.

The trouble with amnesty is that the very next step will be for US 'human rights advocates' to sue in Federal Court for immediate extension of the entire package of welfare benefits to be immediately extended to all these now legal aliens and any who come in after. They will go 'judge-shopping' and will almost surely win quickly, probably in multiple venues.

Getting such decisions reversed tends to take many years so it will likely end up as an unaffordable fait accompli. So we need some kind of legal status which doesn't permit such 'human rights' - such as 'guest worker' or the like.

The realistic choices enrage the GOP base (among other, more reasonable causes for anger). But sitting on your hands isn't a realistic option. Do you really see Nancy Pelosi solving this one? Or Hillary Clinton, for that matter? I sure don't!

Don:

The problem is that people have decided to make this about one issue when it is obvious that people have been crossing that border, since before it was a border. And now all of a sudden Bush has to fix it yesterday the way certain people say it has to be fixed or else...

It is extortion to threaten to hurt people if they do not do what you want. And that is what some folks are doing right now. They think they have to get what they want the way they want it or everyone pays.

Well, if I had known what a bunch of crybabies they were maybe I would not have voted Republican in the first place. Right now I feel like I went out on the limb and Malkin and Noonan and Will are sawing it off.

But I still respect Bush and I think he has been badly treated by a lot of people in his own party.

If people are upset with incumbents they should take it out on them during the primaries (or however their party selects candidates in their state).

From the Cap'n: "However, the notion that we face that kind of choice is really nothing more than an expression of anger resulting in futility. It's eminently understandable, but it results in disaster."

That is my problem. I have had patience, been one of those that would stand and say, " Just be patient, the President is doing what he can with what he has" or "Have a little faith, he still has time to get things done".

And regarding the Congress, saying things like " There are still a few who are trying to make things work".

But at some point, I guess I just ran out of patience and hopes. I am sure I will recover, hopefully before I vote. I will vote I'm sure, unless on my death bed or in the grave.

I just don't know anything for certain now. Things could be much worse, but they don't look very good in most directions I look and no its not just the immigration issue.

Just draw me another beer, I'll be ok.

Papa Ray

Papa Ray:

Oh, you're definitely not alone. There are many, many areas where I just have to grit my teeth... probably in many cases the polar opposite of your teeth-gritting areas!

But all I need do to take heart and get that old time partisan religion... is to take a long, hard look at:

• Presidents Algore, JFK, and Hillary Rodham Clinton Rodham;
• Speaker Nancy Pelosi;
• Chairman Rockefeller (Senate Intelligence);
• Chairman Harman (House Intelligence -- well, she's not too bad);
• Chairman Levin (Senate Armed Services);
• Chairman Skelton (House Armed Services)
• Chairman Leahy (Senate Judiciary);
• Chairman Conyers (House Judiciary).

I look at what might have been (and might still be), compare it to what we actually have right now... And I say to myself, what a wonderful world!

Dafydd

I linked from Time to abandon the "Vichy Republicans"?, much of which was written by Papa Ray's and my friend Rurik, with whose words I sometimes disagree but always find interesting. We're not seeing eye-to-eye on this one at all.

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