May 15, 2008

Appease Porridge Hot, Appease Porridge Cold

Hatched by Dafydd

In a brilliant speech before the Knesset today, President George W. Bush said the following (you can read the complete speech by clicking the Slither On):

There are good and decent people who cannot fathom the darkness in these men and try to explain away their words. It's natural, but it is deadly wrong. As witnesses to evil in the past, we carry a solemn responsibility to take these words seriously. Jews and Americans have seen the consequences of disregarding the words of leaders who espouse hatred. And that is a mistake the world must not repeat in the 21st century.

Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: "Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided." We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.

Almost immediately, Barack Obama reacted with volcanic fury, leaping to the conclusion that the warning against "appeasement" was aimed squarely at him:

By tradition, partisan politics comes to a halt when a U.S. president is on foreign soil, and Bush's remarks led Obama to quickly cry foul. The first-term Illinois senator responded to the comments as if they were criticism of his position that as president he would be willing to personally meet with Iran's leaders and those of other regimes the United States has deemed rogue.

"It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack," Obama said in a statement his aides distributed. "George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president's extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel." [Actually, if they help keep Obama out of the Oval Office, then I think they do a tremendous lot to secure the American people and our stalwart ally Israel!]

Let's ponder that exchange for a moment. I see three fascinating dynamics at play in the fields of the Obamessiah...

Dynamic 1: "The wicked flee when no man pursueth"

Bush attacked appeasement -- and Obama instantly recognized himself, reacting angrily and defensively. So even Obama realizes that his proposed unconditional dialoging with Mahmoud, Jong-Il, Raul, and Oogo skirts perilously close to appeasement.

But since Obama sees America -- not Iran, North Korea, Cuba, or Venezuela -- as the cause of all the world's ills, he truculently believes that it's up to us to "make amends." We must meet with those we have "wronged" by our "cowboy diplomacy" all these years -- which wrongs created a patriotic backlash that takes the form of groups we falsely label as "terrorists" (that would be Hamas, Hezbollah, even al-Qaeda). We must meet with our victims and humble ourselves before them; then they will forgive us and stop all the attacks against us... which were all based on a GOP-inspired misunderstanding anyway.

(Obama likely learned this attitude from two decades of listening to Jeremiah Wright's sermons.)

But he knows he can never say such a thing out loud: He would never be elected. In his own mind, he probably imagines this is because Americans are afraid the face the truth; but for whatever reason, this attitude is a secret he's trying desperately to hide.

Thus Obama's guilty start when he hears that very thing trip from the not so agile lips of George W. Bush. Since it's so overwhelmingly obvious to Barack Obama that Bush meant to single him out, he probably didn't even notice that his name never came up.

Dynamic 2: "If you know who I mean -- and I think you do!"

But in reality, I think it is patently obvious that Bush had Obama directly in mind... and that he knew everyone in the country (and especially Obama himself) would "get it." The presidential spokeschick had a quip all ready to run once Obama plunged into the trap as everyone in the Bush (and McCain) teams expected:

In turn, White House press secretary Dana Perino denied that the Knesset remark was aimed at Obama. In fact, the language is fairly typical for Bush speeches, and Gordon Johndroe, a national security spokesman for the president, said Bush was referring to "a wide range of people who have talked to or suggested we talk to Hamas, Hezbollah or their state sponsors" over a long period of time.

One such person most recently was former President Carter, who held talks with Hamas leaders, leading to criticism from Bush officials as well as Obama and McCain.

Even as the White House said Bush meant no dig at the Democrat, Perino couldn't resist the opportunity to get in a small one.

"I understand when you're running for office you sometimes think the world revolves around you. That is not always true. And it is not true in this case," she said.

"Um... thank you, Ma'am. May I have my eggs back again now?"

Barack Obama looks a fool, not only for instantly leaping to the conclusion that "appeaser" must mean himself -- but then for being so outraged and offended, getting all het up, when in fact nobody even mentioned him. It makes him seem not only guilty but narcissistic.

This was a sly and very effective nudge-nudge wink-wink attack on the New Kid by the president.

Dynamic 3: The "left-handed monkey wrench"

And boy, did it work like a charm!

There is a tradition in many fields that when the New Kid first shows up to work, he is given a number of bootless errands and impossible tasks to perform, things that a more experienced worker would instantly recognize as senseless; the stereotypical version is sending the new hire on the assembly line in search of a "left-handed monkey wrench."

The trick is based upon ignorance and inexperience... and that is just what Barack Obama evinced in this humiliating exchange.

Any experienced politician would immediately recognize the offer of Fool's Mate -- and would decline. Consider this response, had the theoretical target been, say, Bill Clinton...

George W. Bush: "We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

(Bill waits for a question at his current campaign stop)

Reporter: "Mr. President, what do you think of the line about appeasers in the speech by that fascist guy illegally occupying Al Gore's and John Kerry's White House?"

Bill Clinton: "Well, heck, I listened to that speech -- and I couldn't agree more. The president was sure right about that: We can never 'negotiate with the terrorists and radicals,' and I'm glad he understands that. I just wish he would understand that there are some people, heads of state, that you just gotta talk to. I mean, heck, when I was president, I always --" [We skip forty minutes of self praise.]

See, the trick only works if the target publicly recognizes himself as the butt of the speech. If instead he pretends not to notice, then what is the president going to do? He can't out and out say, "and I mean you, Bubba!" because then the target could rightly be outraged.

But Obama was such a green hayseed that he ran pell mell right into the bear trap, flapping his arms and caterwauling like to wake the dead; nobody in America could fail to notice when his leg was grabbed by the steel jaws.

Once the voters notice, they will laugh, because he just made himself look like such a buffoon.

"You can't make a silk purse out of a pig's breakfast"

But when they finish laughing, many undecided Americans will stop to ponder a couple of points:

  • The connection between Barack Obama's grandiose foreign-policy schemes and appeasement (and by extension, the fecklessness of the entire Democratic Party)... sure, maybe he doesn't call for dialog with Hassan Nasrallah, secretary-general of Hezbollah; but he calls for dialog with Nasrallah's boss, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Which is worse?
  • The poor judgment and cranky attitude exhibited by Obama accusing the president of "launch[ing] a false political attack." It's like the old coot all the kids love to torment, because they know will always get apoplectic and scream, "You kids get outa my yard!"

I cannot guarantee this will immediately show up in the polls; gaffes do their best work in the weeks leading up to the election, as the accumulated weight of a hundred stupid miscommunications come back to haunt the nominee. But I strongly suspect this will raise serious doubts in the minds of more than a few undecided voters about entrusting the presidency at this time to an entry-level candidate.

(If you don't feel like jumping to the White House website, the full speech by the president is just below.)

President Bush Addresses the Israeli Knesset - May 15th, 2008

President Peres and Mr. Prime Minister, Madam Speaker, thank very much for hosting this special session. President Beinish, Leader of the Opposition Netanyahu, Ministers, members of the Knesset, distinguished guests: Shalom. Laura and I are thrilled to be back in Israel. We have been deeply moved by the celebrations of the past two days. And this afternoon, I am honored to stand before one of the world's great democratic assemblies and convey the wishes of the American people with these words: Yom Ha'atzmaut Sameach.

It is a rare privilege for the American President to speak to the Knesset. Although the Prime Minister told me there is something even rarer -- to have just one person in this chamber speaking at a time. My only regret is that one of Israel's greatest leaders is not here to share this moment. He is a warrior for the ages, a man of peace, a friend. The prayers of the American people are with Ariel Sharon.

We gather to mark a momentous occasion. Sixty years ago in Tel Aviv, David Ben-Gurion proclaimed Israel's independence, founded on the "natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own fate." What followed was more than the establishment of a new country. It was the redemption of an ancient promise given to Abraham and Moses and David -- a homeland for the chosen people Eretz Yisrael.

Eleven minutes later, on the orders of President Harry Truman, the United States was proud to be the first nation to recognize Israel's independence. And on this landmark anniversary, America is proud to be Israel's closest ally and best friend in the world.

The alliance between our governments is unbreakable, yet the source of our friendship runs deeper than any treaty. It is grounded in the shared spirit of our people, the bonds of the Book, the ties of the soul. When William Bradford stepped off the Mayflower in 1620, he quoted the words of Jeremiah: "Come let us declare in Zion the word of God." The founders of my country saw a new promised land and bestowed upon their towns names like Bethlehem and New Canaan. And in time, many Americans became passionate advocates for a Jewish state.

Centuries of suffering and sacrifice would pass before the dream was fulfilled. The Jewish people endured the agony of the pogroms, the tragedy of the Great War, and the horror of the Holocaust -- what Elie Wiesel called "the kingdom of the night." Soulless men took away lives and broke apart families. Yet they could not take away the spirit of the Jewish people, and they could not break the promise of God. When news of Israel's freedom finally arrived, Golda Meir, a fearless woman raised in Wisconsin, could summon only tears. She later said: "For two thousand years we have waited for our deliverance. Now that it is here it is so great and wonderful that it surpasses human words."

The joy of independence was tempered by the outbreak of battle, a struggle that has continued for six decades. Yet in spite of the violence, in defiance of the threats, Israel has built a thriving democracy in the heart of the Holy Land. You have welcomed immigrants from the four corners of the Earth. You have forged a free and modern society based on the love of liberty, a passion for justice, and a respect for human dignity. You have worked tirelessly for peace. You have fought valiantly for freedom.

My country's admiration for Israel does not end there. When Americans look at Israel, we see a pioneer spirit that worked an agricultural miracle and now leads a high-tech revolution. We see world-class universities and a global leader in business and innovation and the arts. We see a resource more valuable than oil or gold: the talent and determination of a free people who refuse to let any obstacle stand in the way of their destiny.

I have been fortunate to see the character of Israel up close. I have touched the Western Wall, seen the sun reflected in the Sea of Galilee, I have prayed at Yad Vashem. And earlier today, I visited Masada, an inspiring monument to courage and sacrifice. At this historic site, Israeli soldiers swear an oath: "Masada shall never fall again." Citizens of Israel: Masada shall never fall again, and America will be at your side.

This anniversary is a time to reflect on the past. It's also an opportunity to look to the future. As we go forward, our alliance will be guided by clear principles -- shared convictions rooted in moral clarity and unswayed by popularity polls or the shifting opinions of international elites.

We believe in the matchless value of every man, woman, and child. So we insist that the people of Israel have the right to a decent, normal, and peaceful life, just like the citizens of every other nation.

We believe that democracy is the only way to ensure human rights. So we consider it a source of shame that the United Nations routinely passes more human rights resolutions against the freest democracy in the Middle East than any other nation in the world.

We believe that religious liberty is fundamental to a civilized society. So we condemn anti-Semitism in all forms -- whether by those who openly question Israel's right to exist, or by others who quietly excuse them.

We believe that free people should strive and sacrifice for peace. So we applaud the courageous choices Israeli's leaders have made. We also believe that nations have a right to defend themselves and that no nation should ever be forced to negotiate with killers pledged to its destruction.

We believe that targeting innocent lives to achieve political objectives is always and everywhere wrong. So we stand together against terror and extremism, and we will never let down our guard or lose our resolve.

The fight against terror and extremism is the defining challenge of our time. It is more than a clash of arms. It is a clash of visions, a great ideological struggle. On the one side are those who defend the ideals of justice and dignity with the power of reason and truth. On the other side are those who pursue a narrow vision of cruelty and control by committing murder, inciting fear, and spreading lies.

This struggle is waged with the technology of the 21st century, but at its core it is an ancient battle between good and evil. The killers claim the mantle of Islam, but they are not religious men. No one who prays to the God of Abraham could strap a suicide vest to an innocent child, or blow up guiltless guests at a Passover Seder, or fly planes into office buildings filled with unsuspecting workers. In truth, the men who carry out these savage acts serve no higher goal than their own desire for power. They accept no God before themselves. And they reserve a special hatred for the most ardent defenders of liberty, including Americans and Israelis.

And that is why the founding charter of Hamas calls for the "elimination" of Israel. And that is why the followers of Hezbollah chant "Death to Israel, Death to America!" That is why Osama bin Laden teaches that "the killing of Jews and Americans is one of the biggest duties." And that is why the President of Iran dreams of returning the Middle East to the Middle Ages and calls for Israel to be wiped off the map.

There are good and decent people who cannot fathom the darkness in these men and try to explain away their words. It's natural, but it is deadly wrong. As witnesses to evil in the past, we carry a solemn responsibility to take these words seriously. Jews and Americans have seen the consequences of disregarding the words of leaders who espouse hatred. And that is a mistake the world must not repeat in the 21st century.

Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: "Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided." We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.

Some people suggest if the United States would just break ties with Israel, all our problems in the Middle East would go away. This is a tired argument that buys into the propaganda of the enemies of peace, and America utterly rejects it. Israel's population may be just over 7 million. But when you confront terror and evil, you are 307 million strong, because the United States of America stands with you.

America stands with you in breaking up terrorist networks and denying the extremists sanctuary. America stands with you in firmly opposing Iran's nuclear weapons ambitions. Permitting the world's leading sponsor of terror to possess the world's deadliest weapons would be an unforgivable betrayal for future generations. For the sake of peace, the world must not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

Ultimately, to prevail in this struggle, we must offer an alternative to the ideology of the extremists by extending our vision of justice and tolerance and freedom and hope. These values are the self-evident right of all people, of all religions, in all the world because they are a gift from the Almighty God. Securing these rights is also the surest way to secure peace. Leaders who are accountable to their people will not pursue endless confrontation and bloodshed. Young people with a place in their society and a voice in their future are less likely to search for meaning in radicalism. Societies where citizens can express their conscience and worship their God will not export violence, they will be partners in peace.

The fundamental insight, that freedom yields peace, is the great lesson of the 20th century. Now our task is to apply it to the 21st. Nowhere is this work more urgent than here in the Middle East. We must stand with the reformers working to break the old patterns of tyranny and despair. We must give voice to millions of ordinary people who dream of a better life in a free society. We must confront the moral relativism that views all forms of government as equally acceptable and thereby consigns whole societies to slavery. Above all, we must have faith in our values and ourselves and confidently pursue the expansion of liberty as the path to a peaceful future.

That future will be a dramatic departure from the Middle East of today. So as we mark 60 years from Israel's founding, let us try to envision the region 60 years from now. This vision is not going to arrive easily or overnight; it will encounter violent resistance. But if we and future Presidents and future Knessets maintain our resolve and have faith in our ideals, here is the Middle East that we can see:

Israel will be celebrating the 120th anniversary as one of the world's great democracies, a secure and flourishing homeland for the Jewish people. The Palestinian people will have the homeland they have long dreamed of and deserved -- a democratic state that is governed by law, and respects human rights, and rejects terror. From Cairo to Riyadh to Baghdad and Beirut, people will live in free and independent societies, where a desire for peace is reinforced by ties of diplomacy and tourism and trade. Iran and Syria will be peaceful nations, with today's oppression a distant memory and where people are free to speak their minds and develop their God-given talents. Al Qaeda and Hezbollah and Hamas will be defeated, as Muslims across the region recognize the emptiness of the terrorists' vision and the injustice of their cause.

Overall, the Middle East will be characterized by a new period of tolerance and integration. And this doesn't mean that Israel and its neighbors will be best of friends. But when leaders across the region answer to their people, they will focus their energies on schools and jobs, not on rocket attacks and suicide bombings. With this change, Israel will open a new hopeful chapter in which its people can live a normal life, and the dream of Herzl and the founders of 1948 can be fully and finally realized.

This is a bold vision, and some will say it can never be achieved. But think about what we have witnessed in our own time. When Europe was destroying itself through total war and genocide, it was difficult to envision a continent that six decades later would be free and at peace. When Japanese pilots were flying suicide missions into American battleships, it seemed impossible that six decades later Japan would be a democracy, a lynchpin of security in Asia, and one of America's closest friends. And when waves of refugees arrived here in the desert with nothing, surrounded by hostile armies, it was almost unimaginable that Israel would grow into one of the freest and most successful nations on the earth.

Yet each one of these transformations took place. And a future of transformation is possible in the Middle East, so long as a new generation of leaders has the courage to defeat the enemies of freedom, to make the hard choices necessary for peace, and stand firm on the solid rock of universal values.

Sixty years ago, on the eve of Israel's independence, the last British soldiers departing Jerusalem stopped at a building in the Jewish quarter of the Old City. An officer knocked on the door and met a senior rabbi. The officer presented him with a short iron bar -- the key to the Zion Gate -- and said it was the first time in 18 centuries that a key to the gates of Jerusalem had belonged to a Jew. His hands trembling, the rabbi offered a prayer of thanksgiving to God, "Who had granted us life and permitted us to reach this day." Then he turned to the officer, and uttered the words Jews had awaited for so long: "I accept this key in the name of my people."

Over the past six decades, the Jewish people have established a state that would make that humble rabbi proud. You have raised a modern society in the Promised Land, a light unto the nations that preserves the legacy of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. And you have built a mighty democracy that will endure forever and can always count on the United States of America to be at your side. God bless.

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The following hissed in response by: Seaberry

Great post! Obama's supporters are - *HOT*!!! The "Black Blogosphere" (that's what a lot of African-American bloggers call themselves) are desperately trying to spin it against ‘W’, e.g. “I vaguely recall a time when American political figures felt honor-bound not to attack other U.S. leaders while on foreign soil.” Then they start attacking McCain and Lieberman...?!?

And, the Liberals call 'W' - "stupid" and "dumb"...gotta LOVE that Knesset speech! ;-)

The above hissed in response by: Seaberry [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 15, 2008 8:43 PM

The following hissed in response by: Fritz

It is quite obvious that Sen Obama has a very thin skin and an equally guilty conscience. He knows he screwed up with his statements to meet without preconditions and now is desperately trying to confuse the issue to where it will be off the table.

The above hissed in response by: Fritz [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 15, 2008 9:21 PM

The following hissed in response by: Bart Johnson

You May Not Send Anyone Out For a Monkey Wrench, whether Left Handed or not!
That is RACIST!

The above hissed in response by: Bart Johnson [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 15, 2008 10:20 PM

The following hissed in response by: Davod

It was exciting to see all the Democrat fish rise to the bait, if indeed it was bait.

"...(Obama likely learned this attitude from two decades of listening to Jeremiah Wright's sermons)..."

You make a mistake by blaming Wright for Obama's hidden extremism. In Obama's books he makes it clear that Obama's father was, at least, a Socialist. His best adult friend/mentor in Hawaii was a Communist, and I believe, his grandfather on his mother's side was a commmunist.

When it comes down to it Obama felt at home with the theology of Wright's church. It fitted right in with his background. It is who he is.

Unless of course Obama's books are full of BS.`


One of the first jobs I had was working in the foreman's office of a steel reinforcement plant. I remember spending hours searching the factory for a skyhook. The guys on the factory floor all knew where they last saw a skyhook, in another part of the factory.

The above hissed in response by: Davod [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 4:10 AM

The following hissed in response by: Dafydd ab Hugh


You know, I would really love it if other guys (or gals!) would share their stories of being sent for left-handed money wrenches, skyhooks, brass magnets, buckets of prop wash, and anything else they spent four hours hunting for -- "I lent mine to Bob last week, try him" -- wondering why everyone else seemed to be in such a hilarious mood that day.

C'mon, 'fess up!


The above hissed in response by: Dafydd ab Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 4:51 AM

The following hissed in response by: hunter

BHO is showing us why he will melt down in this race.
Or is 'race' a racist term?

The above hissed in response by: hunter [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 5:47 AM

The following hissed in response by: Mark Alger

Newbie printers (a.k.a. "devils") frequently get sent to the basement looking for buckets of halftone dots or plate stretchers.

The jokes are so well known that few fall for it anymore. But occasionally, the unwary...

We used to keep a 5-gal bucket with an official-looking label reading "Halftone Dots, 150 lpi, elliptical, adjustable angle." (Hey, it's a printing plant. If you can't fake a good label, you need to get into another line of work.)

Catch an unwary devil, let him find the bucket (actually filled with H2O), schlepp it upstairs, then tell him, "No, no, no! I wanted 133-line." (Or square dot, or fixed 45 degree -- anything but what's on the label.)


The above hissed in response by: Mark Alger [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 6:17 AM

The following hissed in response by: Insufficiently Sensitive

Dear Senator Obama,

If the shoe fits, wear it.

George W Bush

The above hissed in response by: Insufficiently Sensitive [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 7:50 AM

The following hissed in response by: Seaberry

Electrician to the newbie - These wires are going to be too short, go ask Bob (Job Supervisor) for the wire-stretcher.

The above hissed in response by: Seaberry [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 7:55 AM

The following hissed in response by: Fritz

When in high school I worked at a cheese factory one summer. The gag there was to say the boiler was low on steam and send the newbie for a bucket of steam. At least I didn't fall for that one. And growing up around the logging industry taught me enough to beware of things like skyhooks and the like, so I managed to escape without making a total fool of myself.

On another note, I have actually been snipe hunting. In all fairness we were hunting the Wilson's snipe and there was a season and bag limit on them, and no, we didn't hunt them with a bag in the middle of the night. Last year the Oregon snipe season was 107 days long with a daily bag limit of eight and total in possession of sixteen. Snipe are quite good eating but they are small and it takes several for a meal.

The above hissed in response by: Fritz [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 9:18 AM

The following hissed in response by: Geoman

Appeasement = Egotism + Wishful Thinking.

Oh yeah. And last I checked, Bush isn't running for office. And, oh yeah, every word in his speech is true. Obama is such a dope.

I worked on a farm, and was once told to check the voltage on the electric fence. Just grab the wire, and if you feel a little tingle...

The above hissed in response by: Geoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 9:56 AM

The following hissed in response by: David M

The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - Web Reconnaissance for 05/16/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the check back often.

The above hissed in response by: David M [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 10:24 AM

The following hissed in response by: Zelsdorf2

The best one I have read so far was "if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one you hit is the one that yelps". I do not know the President's intentions by his statement, but if read in context it appears a warning from repeating mistakes made in the past. Obama must have felt he was identified by something he has said in the past one could believe meant he (Obama) is an appeaser. Bush did not use anyones name. Wonder what Malloy thinks?

The above hissed in response by: Zelsdorf2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 10:47 AM

The following hissed in response by: necromancer

Not sure on the spelling here but someone once mentioned I needed to get a kinicular pin.If anyone knows the correct spelling or a close proximity let me know via the lizard comments.

The above hissed in response by: necromancer [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 10:52 AM

The following hissed in response by: BarbaraS

Obama's biggest problem is that he is trying to be all things to all people. He's losing that messiah image and his hope and change image also. He is finally coming across as what he is, a sleazy Chicago politician with an immense ego.

The above hissed in response by: BarbaraS [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 1:07 PM

The following hissed in response by: Geoman

Actually, having just read the AP article on Obama's comments, they are truly appalling:

"(Obama) staunchly defending his national security credentials" Which are...?

"I'm a strong believer in civility and I'm a strong believer in a bipartisan foreign policy, but that cause is not served with dishonest, divisive attacks." This is an...attack. On him.

"Naive and irresponsible belief that tough talk from Washington will somehow cause Iran to give up its nuclear program and support for terrorism." Actually he's right er. bomb and bullets will work better than any amount of talking.

"That's exactly the kind of appalling attack that's divided our country and that alienates us from the world," I'm at a loss here.

"Al-Qaida's leadership is stronger than ever." Than...ever?

What the hell is Obama talking about? Up is down, red is blue, cats sleep with dogs, and the Cubs win the world series. It goes on and on. Just shockingly stupid stuff. And the media and Democratic party pretends this guy is ready to be president.

The above hissed in response by: Geoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 1:50 PM

The following hissed in response by: MTF

Thank heavens the election fight has finally begun, and while bush won't carry the battle it's fitting he got first licks in. Obama is a man who wants to surrender, and the publis has a right to know. When he meets with Ahmadinijad and concedes stuff to him in order to let us leave bagdad, what will he concede? The public has a right to know.

We know what the Iranians want-- they want the death of Jews, they want the total and complete destruction of Israel. After Israel, they want Spain. After that, they want sharia introduced into western countries, including our own.

Aooeasement won't stop this war. And, despite the cowardly talk from Obama and from the Seattle Times, it won't help this time either. Start the debate; McCain will win this one, and big.

The above hissed in response by: MTF [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 3:59 PM

The following hissed in response by: TerryeL

Great post. I agree with every word. Obama just goes on and on and on and on. I mean his panties are in a bunch. You can not say one word that might be construed as anything remotely like criticism of the guy without him acting like a child.

When I think about all the crap Bush has taken over the years I wonder how this wuss thinks he can ever survive.

The above hissed in response by: TerryeL [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 4:14 PM

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