January 9, 2007

Casual Casualties

Hatched by Dafydd

Just to keep things in perspective, according to the Iraq Coalition Casualty Count, as of today, a total of 3,015 American soldiers have been killed during the entire Iraq campaign; to be perfectly internationalist about it, not counting Iraqis themselves, a grand total of 3,266 members of the multinational Iraq Coalition have died over the last 1,392 days.

According to the Persian Journal:

Air pollution has killed more than 3,000 people during one month in the Iranian capital, Tehran, according to a local official. "Pollution has directly or indirectly caused the deaths of 3,600 people in the month of Aban [October 23 to November 23]," Mohammad Hadi Heydarzadeh, director of Tehran's clean air committee, said.

Heydarzadeh goes on to note that 80% of fatal heart problems in Tehran are pollution related, and adds this chilling assessment:

"It is a very serious and lethal crisis, a collective suicide," he said.

Remember, this is in the Islamic paradise of Tehran, where Sharia is "not just a good idea." Evidently, Mohammed had little to say about smog.

Hatched by Dafydd on this day, January 9, 2007, at the time of 10:09 PM

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The following hissed in response by: Terrye

I am not sure what the number is right now, but I read several months ago that about 800 of those deaths were not caused by contact with the enemy. In other words, they were accidents, chopper crashes, or drownings, or natural causes or something else. But I am not sure how to find that reference again.

However, it should be remembered that the military dangerous whether they are in Baghdad or at Fort Sill Ok. Lots of ways to get hurt

As for Tehran, there is something to be said for just waiting for it to die.

The above hissed in response by: Terrye [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 2:22 AM

The following hissed in response by: Big D

It is hard to say this, but from a purely logical and historical perspective, our casualties in Iraq have been entirely inconsequential.

I'd be interested in the casualty rates in Japan and Germany after WWII. Of course, prior to occupying either country we killed about 30% of both military personnel, so comparisons hardly count. But I'd bet more than 3,000 Americans dies occupying Germany and Japan after the war.

The above hissed in response by: Big D [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 10:18 AM

The following hissed in response by: DrMalaka

Terrye is right on. We need to count total accidental deaths, and to take it one step further, we need to compare those to accidental death tolls during peace time.

When we are at peace our accidental death toll in the military is a pretty big number by the standards that the MSM has put on our combat death tolls. Preparedness is down considerably so accidents are more prevalent.

I mourn every casualty we have but I am also smart enough to understand that 3,000 dead barely touches the number of casualties we had at Normandy before our boys even had a chance to get off their landing crafts.

If we put such a high value on a statistically insignificant number like 3,000 (.001 of our population) then we put absolutely no value in the million plus who sacrificed their lives before this war to preserve this great nation.

The above hissed in response by: DrMalaka [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 12:12 PM

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