May 26, 2006

Welcome Power Line Readers....

Hatched by Dafydd

Paul Mirengoff was kind enough to post about our immigration-bill exchange. In the post, he noted that I "don't defend it in [my] email."

That is true. One of the joys of having a blog is that I needn't repeat the same arguments over and over in every missive... I can point people to Big Lizards! I wish I had done this in my e-mail to Paul, but I'll do it here.

We have discussed this issue, and in particular the Hagel-Martinez Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006, in many, many posts... supporting the basic idea but often bashing particular provisions: for example, importing a permanent class of foreign workers instead of just expanding the number of actual immigrants we let in legally.

And we have also noted important changes that should have been in the bill but don't appear to be (in either the Senate or House version), such as a reform of the legal immigration system to make it less capricious and arbitrary and more rational and fair.

Here is a list:

  1. A Tale of Two Cities
  2. Heck, Big Lizards Can Break This Silly Logjam
  3. Breaking: Senate Compromises On Immigration Reform
  4. Patterico's Brilliant Idea
  5. The Continental Divide
  6. A Modest Proposal
  7. First Impressions: Bush's Speech On Immigration
  8. A Specter Is Haunting the Blogosphere...
  9. The "Cost" of Illegal Immigration - and Rhetorical Dissimulation
  10. Excellent Amendment: Criminals Can't Become Citizens
  11. Please Fence Me In, Part Deux
  12. Will Robert Rector Recalculate?
  13. Perm the Temps
  14. Plenty of Room for Improvement - Updated
  15. Senate Passes Bill... Will Conservatives Play Dog-In-the-Manger?
  16. You Are Getting Sleepy, Sleeeeeeeepy....

As you can see, Big Lizards has certainly not been ducking this issue! Sixteen posts arguing our position probably stacks up reasonably well to Power Line, especially considering that they have three brilliant folks arguing their side, and I'm the only member of the Big Lizards team arguing ours (Sachi is more interested in Iraq and country music).

It's not that we have no arguments for our position; it's just that I didn't want to try to shoehorn them into an e-mail.

Hatched by Dafydd on this day, May 26, 2006, at the time of 3:44 PM

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The following hissed in response by: Terrye


For what it is worth, I still come here and read your posts but have not bothered to go to powerline in some time. Broken record.

I think conservatives need to be careful that they do not make the perfect the enemy of the good. The point to taking a bill to conference is to find some kind of compromise. The American people are not all conservative bloggers, and so the views in the real world are more diverse then one might find on line.

I think that sundowning certain provisions and phasing in some parts of the plan might be compromises. I think that getting rid of some of the sillier stuff that causes trouble, like earned income credit for illegals etc, can also be useful. But I still maintain that Americans value consensus over partisanship and real life solutions over rhetoric and if the Republicans fail to come up with a compromise they will seem incapable of governing.

The above hissed in response by: Terrye [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 26, 2006 4:52 PM

The following hissed in response by: BigMediaBlog

I have only three words for you:

The above hissed in response by: BigMediaBlog [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 26, 2006 9:05 PM

The following hissed in response by: Jim,MtnViewCA,USA

Sen Grassley provides a set of 10 specific objections which he has for the Senate bill.
Let's hope the House confrerees can talk some sense into those Senate bozos.

The above hissed in response by: Jim,MtnViewCA,USA [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 27, 2006 6:30 AM

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