October 24, 2005

Gen. Pace: Thirty-Nine Iraqi Battalions "In the Lead"

Hatched by Dafydd

U.S. Marine Gen. Peter Pace, the new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was just this moment a guest on the Hugh Hewitt show, with Jed Babbin (of NRO fame) sitting in for Hugh. Gen. Pace dropped a rather stunning bombshell.

Babbin asked Gen. Pace for an assessment of the Iraqi fighting forces, and the chairman made the following points:

  • There are now over 200,000 Iraqis either in the Iraqi army or the Iraqi police forces.
  • There are over 100 battalions of Iraqi army now considered battle-ready; Gen. Pace said he believed it was actually 117 battalions (which matches other reporting).
  • And in breaking news, the chairman stated that fully one-third of these battalions are already "in the lead" in fighting the terrorists. The other two-thirds are fighting alongside American troops but not yet ready to assume the lead.

Assuming that last figure is correct, that would mean at least thirty-three Iraqi battalions and as many as thirty-nine battalions of the Iraqi army (as many as 39,000 men) are actually taking the lead in fighting for their own country. This is incredibly good news... and even though Sachi is traveling, it deserves to be reported.

I doubt I'll be able to scoop the MilBlogs (some of which you can see blogrolled to the right) -- they probably got this same information weeks ago during one of their weekly breakfast briefings with Gen. Pace -- but at least I have the forlorn hope of scooping Prof. Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit!

(I will of course scoop the MSM with this good news... but that would still be true if I sat on it until Shrove Tuesday.)

Hatched by Dafydd on this day, October 24, 2005, at the time of 3:44 PM

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The following hissed in response by: RiverRat

It's not news Dafydd. General Casey said the same thing at hearings two weeks ago. Our objective Mainsewer Media ignored it to report that only 1 battalion has a logistics tail and is thus rated "Class 1" by US Military standards.

The above hissed in response by: RiverRat [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 6:43 PM

The following hissed in response by: RiverRat

It's not news Dafydd. General Casey said the same thing at hearings two weeks ago. Our objective Mainsewer Media ignored it to report that only 1 battalion has a logistics tail and is thus rated "Class 1" by US Military standards.

The above hissed in response by: RiverRat [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 6:44 PM

The following hissed in response by: LiveFreeOrDie

It was news to me, RiverRat, and I try to stay up on it.

Its the nature of the beast, when the MSM is so dysfunctional.

The above hissed in response by: LiveFreeOrDie [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 6:55 PM

The following hissed in response by: reliapundit - the astute blogger

it is NOT news that 39 are "CAPABLE OF BEING IN THE LEAD."

this is NOT the same as "CAPABLE OF INDEPENDENT ACTION."

"IN THE LEAD" means LEADING but WITH US/coaliton forces.

so you MUST correct the "breaking news" aspect of your post; it is NOT breaking news; it is EXACTLY casey testified to.

it only makes you seem foolish and ill-informed. Ditto Glenn.

BTW: the MSM definitely downplayed this aspect. and the INCOMPETENT PR folks at the Pentagon and the White House have DROPPED THE BALL AGAIN by not trumpeting this progress - for it is DEFINITELY GOOD NEWS.

i think you were fooled by Pace's excellent use of this fact.

i believe that since Ari Fleischer (and Hughes) and Tory Clarke left their posts at the WH and the Pentagon that the PR efforts of the WH and Pentagon have TOTALLY SUCKED.

The above hissed in response by: reliapundit - the astute blogger [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 7:29 PM

The following hissed in response by: TallDave

If you think this is news you haven't been reading Murdoc or Bill Roggio. This was discussed in great detail both places.

Sadly, our MSM is way behind the curve, so those are probably the only places you'd find this information.

The above hissed in response by: TallDave [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 8:02 PM

The following hissed in response by: LiveFreeOrDie

If the MSM was to run and clarify this info, we would all be happy. But instead, we are going to sit here and bitch at each other about who's most on top of things?

This is the same thing as the classification distortion, right?

How a battalion couldn't really be class one because Iraqi logistics is not yet up to snuff?

Fine its not News. Except that perhaps "In the Lead" is a better way of putting it.

Still, whats the problem. Its a clarification.


Anyway, I'll check out Murdoc and Bill Roggio. At least that info was constructive.

The above hissed in response by: LiveFreeOrDie [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 8:34 PM

The following hissed in response by: TigerHawk

As we've all learned from General Pataeus's briefings around the country, most units in most armies are not "level 1." "Level 2," which is, as reported here, "in the lead," is as good as most units get in countries without an air force, for example. It will be virtually impossible for any Iraqi unit to achieve Level 1, and that is OK. Indeed, based on my parsing of the classification scheme, I'm amazed that even one has.

The above hissed in response by: TigerHawk [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 9:40 PM

The following hissed in response by: TallDave

Good point livefree, I guess the real news is the continuing near-traitorous dereliction of duty by the MSM.

This info should be common knowledge for all Americans. I bet 90% not only don't realize Iraqis are taking the lead in one quarter of all operations, they've been so inculcated with bad news they wouldn't believe it if you told them.

The above hissed in response by: TallDave [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 6:08 AM

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